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horses4ever
THank you thank you thank you!!
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 9:50 am
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THis is amazing, thank you sooo much!!! That's awesome that a reader-viewer got on here!! Thanks soo much! Can I post this on my blog? Teenage girls read it, and they need to see this.
Laurie
Thank you!
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 9:54 am
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I have read the first two Twilight books, and although I enjoyed them, I never understood what all the hype was about. I still haven't read the third or fourth, simply because the series hasn't consumed me. My sister on the other hand is rather Twilight obsessed. I have noticed that her relationship with God is not what it should be. She has stopped practicing many things that as Christians it is important for us to do if we are to achieve a fulfilling and strong relationship with Christ. After reading this I looked back to when I started noticing her relationship was suffering and it began a few months after she began to read this series. I couldn't understand why she was becoming desensitized to so many things that used to be fairly black and white with her. Now I see that while it may not be this series entirely, Twilight has certainly served to help the process of drawing her from God. I will definitely confront her on this. And the past few blogs have given me the material to do this in a loving and godly way!

Thank you so much and God bless!
Erin Davis
horses4ever
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 9:59 am
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Post away! We are praying for these ideas to spread...you're blog would be a great start.

Erin
Melissa
thankful for truth
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm
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I'm so glad that there are Christians who are not afraid to speak the truth in love to those who need to hear it. I've never read the Twilight series because when I first read reviews of the books, I knew they weren't anything I wanted to read. However, I struggle with media discernment just like many girls out there, and the truth presented on this blog has helped to remind me and warn me that I need to use more spiritual discernment in what I watch and read. So thanks a whole bunch for your courage and obedience to God!
Emily
biblical themes in Twilight
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm
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I think it is a conviction thing. If someone can not read the books without being dragged away from spiritual things or being tempted to becoming obsessed then yes don't read them. The fact is though, that other than the fact that they are vampires, there really is no witchcraft/occult action in these books. In fact Stephanie Meyer steered away from that. These books and the movie are no more spiritually dangerous than anything else we allow to take the place of Christ and/or our quiet times. Anything from Christian music to Twilight can become a distraction from what's really important if we allow it to. I can read these books, enjoy them for what they are, but walk away knowing (obviously) that it's not real. And it truly never did affect my quiet times and or relationship with God. I like reading the books, but I am not obsessed and I'm not desensitized to the occult now because; there is none of that in the books. They are no more frightening then some of the things in some of the Narnia books and that is the truth. I believe that this is a conviction thing. If you believe that it will cause you to stumble, don't read them. Simple. But I do disagree with this attitude that it is all out wrong to read them.
Romans 14:13-18
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.


I have friends who feel like they shouldn't read them so I don't talk about it or gush about how much I like it to them, because that would be causing THEM to stumble. But this is a personal conviction thing, not something I think anyone has the right to draw the line of "if you read them, you're wrong"
sarah
re: Emily
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 6:06 pm
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I don't think that Erin is argueing to stop reading Twilight and saying that it is un-godly, just to judge people who have already read it. I think she is discussing this topic to REMOVE a stumbleing block. I have to agree with Erin that these books do seem dangerous. even if you can just walk away from them and read them w/out any noticeable effects that does not mean that they are healthy for you. For example, drinking a little bit of poison each day may not produce any ill effects for a few weeks but after eating it and takeing it in for months or years....then there could be seriously ill side effects!! I don't want to offend you by being too harsh but I believe this is a very serious topic!! Especcially if you do not realize the danger in it. It seems to me that if there is a question as to whether or not you should read it, its better to be safe and just not read it. God gave His life, Can't we give up a book series??
Erin Davis
Emily
on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 11:05 pm
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Should we only avoid behaviors if we feel convicted. There are some choices that I make where I don't necessarily feel guilty or convicted. But someone else can recognize that I am in error, or what I am doing contradicts God's Word. In these situations, it is right to choose differently even if I don't initially feel bad...

Are our emotions a good barometer of how we should behave?

Something to think about...

Erin Davis
Lauren De Camp
Re:
on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 at 5:30 pm
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Actually Relient K wasn't on the soundtrack. I wish, but no. I don't think that this stuff should be taken literally. I mean i'm a christian and I have read the books. It's just fiction. As long as we read our non fiction as well, the bible, then I don't think it could cause harm.
Nedelka
Book
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 2:18 am
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This is a great blog. I read some of the comments here and its just amazing how much the youth of this generation have to put up with. I'm not a teenager, but I do know quite a few of them and my prayers are with you all. I want to start a class at my church with the book "Lies young women believe" and I would like to hear some feed back from some of you that have read the book and how it has helped you ladies with your walk with the Lord. Thank you and waiting on responses!
Erin Davis
Nedelka
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 9:27 am
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Thanks for stopping by lywb.com. F.Y.I 46 young women have posted about the impact of Lies Young Women Believe on their lives on a post titled "Share your Lies Young Women Believe Testimony Right Here" You can find it under the category news and updates, or follow this link http://www.liesyoungwomenbelieve.com/index.php?id=124.

There are some great testimonies there. I am sure they will encourage you.

Erin Davis
Last Edit: on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 11:46pm by nroth  
Rhonda
be careful
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 2:11 pm
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I am a mother of a young girl who read the series based on reviews of her christian peers. I saw how she devoured the book and then I read it. I wish I read it with her - as it does lead to some interesting conversations. The innocent yet sexual tension, secrets from parents, changing of someone you love and so on...Especially when it comes to the secrets portion. Keeping secrets from your parents to "protect" them and then willingly putting yourself in a dangerous situation because you believe that this person loves you. That in itself is something that I don't think she is mature enough to fully understand yet. To think that a young woman like Bella will subject herself to a life separated from God forever just to be with her immortal vampire boyfriend forever is a concept that is beyond me to fully comprehend. One can learn a lot from these books - but not everything is beneficial. After talking with my daughter about the book (when I completed it) she decided to wait to read any further books until she is more mature. If she chooses to read them as an indepedent thinker, and young adult that is her choice but as her mother I would caution her to never keep deep dark secrets that can ultimately separate you from God, in this fictional case forever.
Emily
re: Sarah
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 3:18 pm
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There are lots of things that are not necessarily beneficial to us but we still use for entertainment. TV and use of the computer for things like Facebook or email are obvious examples. Are these things harming your walk with God? They have the potential to but as long as you use them in moderation they won't. And no I am not offended at all. But I do think sometimes we make mistakes by going to these extremes in a case like this. I know that there are Christian standards but who are we to judge and say that this series will ultimately be to the detriment of all who read it, whether they know it or not? That is not our call. This is an issue on which the Bible does not speak specifically to. I know the verse that keeps being quoted about "whatever is good, etc" but since most of the people commenting on here have not actually READ the books, they cannot speak definitively to whether or not the books have Satanic or occult-like influences (which they don't). Again, if someone feels like it would harm their walk with God to read them, by all means don't, and no judgment from me! I do not judge people for their convictions at all, I respect them for them. But I do have a problem with this line that is being drawn on something that is debatable. The attitude that comes from this is a very judgmental one that does not do much for arguing the point. I respect people's standards completely. I don't think it's stupid or silly to not read these books. But the line that is being drawn here is simply unnecessary.
As far as being unwilling to give up a book series: If I thought it was harming my walk with God I would. For sure. But I don't. I've seen so many people give up things like this or Myspace or something for purely the gnostic idea of denying themselves for God's sake and it ends up being more of a "look at how holy I am" appearances thing. I may be judged for things like this, but I never make a decision like that to jump on the spiritual bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do. And yes, things like that certainly exist within Christianity. I would ask you to consider why (not you Sarah necessarily but everyone) you really don't read these. If it's because you are truly trying to avoid something that might cause you to stumble, than that's great. If it's to look more spiritual and not really based on an informed opinion, you might want to re-evaluate.
I hope I have not offended anyone. :)
God Bless
Tallulah
Standards...
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 3:59 pm
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~Sigh~

Christian standards have lowered so much, its incredible. The world today is so focused on entertainment, and not on things that really matter.

The question isn't "Is reading these books harming my walk with God" Its "Are these books helping my walk with God". Just because you see no bad consequences now, doesn't mean that its glorifying God.

I think we should be more focused on what we can do for God, not what we can get away with!!

For example. I had an acount on Christian.com (which is like myspace) and I didn't see anything wrong with it. I wasn't sinning by using it. But, I was spending more time on the computer than normal, time that could have been spent more wisely.

I have never read these books or seen the movie, but I can see a change in the people I know who have. The CHRISTIANS I know who have.

From what I have heard about this series, I would feel extremly uncomfortable watching/reading them with Jesus sitting next to me.
Erin Davis
Everything is permissible but...
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 4:22 pm
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It certainly is possible to read these books and not feel an immediate impact on your walk with Christ. It may even be possible never to feel any impact. But what if we looked at it a different way?

1 Corinthians 6:12 says " Everything is permissible for me but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be mastered by anything."

It could be argued that the Bible does not speak directly about "Twilight," though I think there are many passages that pretty clearly apply. Even so, you're right--it is permissible, that is allowed, for Christians to read these books. But is it beneficial? It may not harm your walk with Christ, but does it help it?

This standard should encourage us to avoid things that may seem harmless, but certainly aren't helpful. Is it possible, that when Christians choose to walk away from things like books, or habits, or behaviors it is not because those things are clearly doing harm, but because they are not clearly doing good?

Something to ponder...

Erin
Melody
Twilight
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 4:59 pm
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A friend of mine told me about this book and this blog, and I am so excited that there is such fantastic conversation happening! It is truly encouraging to read such truth and such great questions!
I have some comments, some things that have helped me recently, to deal with media, books and movies in particular. I recently fell victim to the "Twilight" saga. It charmed its way into my heart and mind and has been difficult to get rid of. God is so good, though! He is truly the great Redeemer! The most important revelation I made was that media tends to be charming, not blatantly threatening. Proverbs 31:30 has meant a lot to me; charm IS deceitful. It slithers its way in, undetected until it is too late. We must always be on our guard to fight off the enemy (Ephesians 6:10-20).
When I began reading the saga, I thought, "I can handle this. I'll just read it, and I'll be fine." This is a lie. I put myself in a situation that turned detrimental to my heart and mind in the end. Another passage of Scripture that has meant a lot to me is Proverbs 7. The young man in the passage knew where the harlot resided yet he went there anyway. Why, I'm not sure, but she ended up snaring him. This became a principle I like to call "don't walk by the harlot's corner." Don't even go to places where evil resides, like reading or watching things that are not glorifying or pleasing to God. It is hard, but is so worth it in the end. The eternal value is beyond measure!
Erin Davis
Melody
on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 5:02 pm
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Great insights! I love that strategy, "don't walk by the harlot's corner." What a great image to help us run in the opposite direction of sin instead of trying to get as close as possible!

Keep commenting. I'll keep reading...

Erin Davis
Sarah
re: Emily
on Thursday, December 18, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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I respect what you said Emily and think the point you made about giveing things up just to look more spiritual, is a very interesting one!! Jesus used the Pharisees as examples of that numerous times in the gospels. I decided to not read the Twilight series for other reasons, but I do see your point.
I also see your point about not being able to judge the book with out even reading it. However I think it is harmful to read the books and do not want to expose myself to them JUST so I can tell other people not to read them. do you understand my point? I hope you do not think I am judgeing you or speaking unfairly! God bless!!!
Emily
re: Sarah
on Friday, December 19, 2008 at 10:18 pm
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Yes I completely understand your point. Like I said, I completely respect other people's convictions. I don't think it's stupid at all, I admire that you stand by what you believe. I just disagree when people draw lines on issues like this where the Bible clearly does not say yes or no.
Thank you for reading what I wrote and being polite :) Not everyone else does that.
In Him-Emily
millie
Thanks!
on Saturday, December 20, 2008 at 11:56 am
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I've seen the movie, and I was actually depressed for the whole weekend because I knew that Edward was not real, and that I could never have him. It hurt to look at him. Now I see that if I read the books, I will become even more depressed, and also upset, and farther away from God. Thank you SO much!!

<3 God bless you!
Millie
heather
hi
on Sunday, December 21, 2008 at 5:06 pm
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i have a friend who is in love with the books.She has said i should read them.But i am afraid to because i get adicted to love stories.i do know that my walk with God will not be good.i would like to know what they are about.So i can tell peaple truthfully what i think about them.
Haley
Re:
on Sunday, December 21, 2008 at 7:58 pm
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I haven't read the Twiliight series, but I have read many other vampire-themed novels and stories in the past, all of which have left an irreparable mark in my mind. Truly, though, from what I've seen and heard, Twilight is like any other "teen" romance just packaged w/ mythical creatures. It's the same old bait they set out for us- young ladies in particular. They deliver the same emotional rush-whether by book or film- and package it in any way that will convince us it's "new" and then they rake in all of our (and our parents') cash! Moreover, why are we running to fictional characters & stories to find fulfillment? Why not find it in a man of faithfulness like Christ, rather than a guy who has killed people (like Edward Cullen in Twilight) ?

Also, I found that Mark Early brought up some valid points/ concerns about Twilight in his "Break Point."

Here are the links (to 2 of the articles):
http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=9477
http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=10603


Ladies, don't make the mistake of marking your memory with this stuff, whether it be the movie or books, because TRUST ME, those memories can only be removed by God's divine power!! Don't mess with it even if you're curious...there's nothing to it but a bunch of pain. (I speak from experience.)

...and as I always like to remind you, fellow sisters in Christ, PRAY. PRAY. PRAY.

let Christ be your fulfillment!! :-]

>>Haley
Erin Davis
Haley
on Sunday, December 21, 2008 at 9:56 pm
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Great insights Haley!

Erin Davis
Elizabeth
Thank You!!!
on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 12:46 am
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You don't know what a relief it was to see this, I have been trying to talk to all the peers I know that are obsessed with this series about why it isn't the most discerning choice. I read the first one, and realized that I just wouldn't feel comfortable reading this with Jesus.
Elisa
RE:Emily
on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 8:39 am
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Hi Emily~

I am sorry if some of the post seem to be disagreeably strong in tone. I would hope that we all could share our experiences in love and we each safely learn to discern with each others help.

I admire that you have the strength not to seek such behavior and can walk away easily. I haven't even read the series but I do have a 7 year old and do look for good council with my christian brothers and sisters to help navigate us in life too. Ultimatley, I want to do what is pleasing and beneficial to the Lord first.

When I read the posts from both sides my question is what about the ones weak in spirit? Isn't it our goal not to entice our brothers and sisters in Christ into further tempation? Maybe I am wrong but that is what came to mind when I read these discussions.

We have had other "fun" or "innocent" tools out there such as games, websites, books, groups and gatherings that our kids can be exposed too easily that haven't proven beneficial in the long run. I would hope someone would help send some warning signs along the way if my daughter was weak in spirit and just dabbling in these things as she gets older and we didn't know what she was doing.

Have a happy holiday everyone. I pray this blog turns out beneficial for everyone.
Sarah
re: Emily
on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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I think it is dangerous to say that something is ok if the bible doesn't say specifically not to do it. Yes the bible is our guide and should be used as a guide but remember, the culture from then to now has changed. ( I admit this is also a little dangerous but let me explain). Drugs are wrong. But does the bible say specifically " Do not take drugs?". We should fallow the bible but some things we need to discern for ourselves. Again I hope I am not being disrespectful! I love, Sarah.
Tallulah
Sarah
on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 3:30 pm
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In some ways I agreee with you...BUT...

Sure, the bible doesn't say that drugs are wrong, but we know they are because of the effect that they have on us right?? But, not all drugs are wrong are they?? Painkillers have a good effect on us don't they?? Saying drugs are wrong is like saying books are wrong, which is just not true. The Twilight books are wrong because of the effect that they have on people, which I have personally seen...

I totally agree that we need to desern some things for ourselves, but sometimes God uses other people to show us our blind spots.

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
Sarah
Re: Tellulah
on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 12:43 pm
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hey I'm not sure I see your point. The point I was makeing was that we should be carefull what we do because the bible doesn't specifically tell us not to do some things....such as take drugs. No I don't think drugs such as painkillers are bad as long as they are not taken too much. What I'm trying to say is we shouldn't do something we know or think might be wrong just because the bible never says anything about it. I was useing the drug thing as an example to support my point.
I admit, my last comment was really un-clear. Sorry. God bless!
Tallulah
Ooops
on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 1:41 pm
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Sarah-

Sorry, I didn't really make it very clear what I was trying to say :) I basically agree with you that the Bible doesn't talk specifically about a lot of the issues that we face today, but that doesn't mean that something is automatically ok just because the Bible doesn't talk about it...does that make more sense??

But anyways, I basically agree with what you have been saying in your other comments :D
Lisa
Re: Heather
on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 at 2:22 pm
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The word says to be wise about "evil". It doesnt say yoou should experience it just so you can talk about it with others:)
baby girl
Re:
on Friday, December 26, 2008 at 1:47 am
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lol thanx this will really help me
Ellie
Thankyou!
on Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 2:26 pm
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This post was so encouraging. Lately I feel as if I am the only girl at my church who has not read Twilight, and when people ask me why I haven't read them, they won't listen to what I have to say. It is discouraging to know that some of my best friends, Christians, have fallen prey to the "this is fine, it is Christian, you have to read it, it isn't wrong!" lie! It helps so much to know that there really are people out there who won't read Twilight.
Megan
No black and white: It is either of God or NOT
on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 at 10:19 am
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I want to start of by saying that I am writing, because I was deceived with the Harry Potter series. I am not suggesting that the 2 have anything in common. Other than the fact that they were incredibly popular among many age ranges. I loved the Harry Potter series, and saw nothing wrong with them. I felt as an adult, I was capable of keeping fact straight from fiction. I was strong enough in my faith to read the books and not want to dabble in witchcraft. It was after I had read the series twice that I realized that this wasn't merely fiction. JK Rowlings had based much of the "magic" on real principles of witchcraft. I had been deceived!

I have an almost 12 year old daughter that like many others, she came home with a copy of Twilight and couldn't wait to dive in. My rule of thumb is that I read all the books first and then OK or deny. I don't think that it is fair to judge a book on what I "think". My easy going, sweet daughter (who has NEVER read a book for pleasure) started yelling and screaming about how EVERYONE IS READING IT. I was so shocked. All this turmoil over a book.

Please let us remember that satan is the father of all lies. He is also a phenomenal deceiver.

OK we all know that real vampires aren't real. But when we look at the underlying themes in Twilight and other books, that is what concerns me.

Bella's willingness to lie and deceive her parents for a boy. A boy that is not like her. A boy that is dangerous for her. This book romaticizes a relationship that is wrong from the start. She ends up not only willing, but desiring to give up her very soul to be with Edward. And she DOES.

OK, again I realize that my daughter isn't going to enter into a relationship with a vampire. But there are plenty of boys that I would call dangerous that she may choose to enter into a relationship with. Would it be OK, if he is gorgeous? charming? Should I not be concerned that she could enter into a relationship that is so important to her that she is willing to lose her soul?

Young women today would be so much better off if they would choose not to enter into such relationships to begin with. It would save many, many heartaches.

I ask that you pray for God to open your eyes concerning this book. Just because you aren't "convicted" to not read it isn't a reason to read it.

A good rule of thumb to ask...is it OF GOD? It is either of God or NOT.
Steph
Conscience
on Friday, January 16, 2009 at 11:13 am
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Well, I like that you said Twilight in and of itself is not evil. I think this is something that each Christian must decide according to their conscience. According to their own succeptabilities and weaknesses. Or, pray about it! For me personally, I have read all four books and I never got obsessed with them like you say you did, Jessica. I think it's different for different people. For example, watching a certain movie - like, I don't know - any movie! It may not be edifying, but it's not bad. So each person should decide for themselves. I did not go to Twilight to replace God (not even close), I went for entertainment - fairly clean entertainment (around 3 chapters of the fourth book are exceptions) - and that's what I got!
Silence Dogood
Please Read This!
on Monday, January 19, 2009 at 12:08 am
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Hello bloggers, my name is Silence,I am a Christian, and I have read and enjoyed the four books of the Twilight series. In reading the responses I noticed that the comments seem to be swayed to supporting the claim that Twilight is not for Christians. However before you take her word for it there are certain things that as discerning people that you should consider. Are you willing to take the "insight" of one college senior and try and turn people against the Twilight franchise? Jessica talks about letting emotions getting the best of her while at the same time this article itself appeals more to emotion then to actual facts. Because one college student got much more emotionally involved in the story to the point of insanity and wishing that it is real, you have arbitrarily labeled the series as evil and that is nothing short of ridiculous. I have never heard anyone (aside from our friend Jessica) say that Twilight was replacing God in their lives. If simply reading pop literature can sway your faith as much as it apparently has, maybe you should really be looking at your own walk with God and your own faith instead of using the book you happen to be reading at the time as your scapegoat. Allow me to play devils advocate for those of you who don't think that Twilight is a decent series to read.

1. there is no foul language in the books
2. there is no sexual content that you could label as inappropriate. They do no have sex outside of marriage and even while dating their physical contact is much less then you would see in a high school setting anywhere else. Also, they don't only wait until marriage for Edwards fear of damaging Bella. He tells her that he won't have sex outside of marriage in order to save their purity. I find that a very good message to be sending to young girls who may be facing the dilemma of whether or not to give up their virginity.
3. It is not fair to blame a book for your personal struggle with your own faith. This is not a philosophy book. The book was not written so that you could base your reason for being on Twilight and the Cullens. It was never meant to be a replacement for your faith.
4. The books were written as fiction, are classified as fiction, and therefore should be treated as fictional. To go through life now asking yourself how would the characters in Twilight react or wishing that they would come and sweep you off of your feet is silly. It's similar to fantasizing about owls flying to your room at night to drop off your letter of admission to Hogwarts.
5. Edward himself states that vampires are evil yet his family struggles to be good, regardless of the fact that they will have to make sacrifices in order to do so. The concept of sacrifice and being not self-centered is virtually absent from most pop media and so again, Twilight has broken the norm to bring a better set of values to young people.
6. Finally, and this is very important for everybody to understand, TWILIGHT IS NOT REAL! I know that I am repeating myself but this is essentially the crux of the problem. Vampires (good or bad) do not exist. There is no Native American tribe that turns into wolves when danger is near. However great Edward Emmett Jasper and Carlisle seem, they will never come and take you to the meadow to play baseball with them.

In closing I would just ask anyone who reads this to not base your opinion of Twilight on what Jessica has said. I have never ever ever heard a response even similar to that from anyone else who has read the books. If you do further research and still come to the conclusion that the books are evil or bad or not for you, then absolutely do not read them. But please, educate yourselves instead of being swayed by the emotions of one person.
Sarah
help
on Monday, January 19, 2009 at 5:47 pm
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all of my pen-pals have been writeing me and telling me how they love Twilight. i have no intention of reading them and really don't want to read them but what can I say to all my friends? It's really hard 'cause like I can't really have a converstation really cause it takes like three weeks before we get each others letters. So far I have just told them to come and check out this sight but.....how can I help them from falling into this.....trap?
Erin Davis
Silence
on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 at 10:30 am
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I would strongly encourage you to read the other posts about "Twilight" on this blog. We give many arguments for why "Twilight" isn't a good choice for discerning Christian readers. And Jessica is by far not the only young women to be honest about the negative impact these books have had on her life. You're opinion is a welcome addition to this blog, as are the opinions of others. However, you are not welcome to minimize, trivialize, or make fun of the opinions of others including Jessica.

Erin
Frustrated
Are they brain-washed?
on Monday, January 26, 2009 at 6:53 pm
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I am so frustrated because I am the only one at my school and dance studio that does not read the Twilight series. I do not plan on reading it because of all the bad things I have heard about it. My mom is the kind of person that has to finish a book when she starts it but half way through the Twilight series (she was trying to see if I could read it) she had to stop because she said it creeped her out and something about it made her really disturbed. I have steered clear of it since.
However, All of my friends think I am weird when I say that I do not want to read them. I try to explain to them the things that are bad about it (such us the lying and sexual relationship) but they make up excuses or just shrug and change the subject. I feel like the book is brain-washing them. It makes me feel sick how many girls are addicted to these books.
No one I know will support me...I can't get through to any of them. It is really discouraging.
Erin Davis
Frustrated
on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 10:53 am
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I know it can be tough to swim against the tide. But, it is so important that you stick to your guns on this one. Look at all of the other young women who agree with you on this site. You certainly are not alone. Use "Twilight" as an opportunity to start a loving conversation about Jesus. Don't dish out condemnation but tell the girls around you why you've opted not to read this book. I think you'll find this is a great way to open the door to talk about your faith.

Keep your head up! I support you and I am proud of you!

Erin Davis
teacup
Re:
on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 4:03 pm
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i have a few friends who are ubsessed with twilight but to me it is on the same level as herry potter. i will not read it and if i was given one of the books i would probly just through it away! (alll my friends say i'm obsesive when it comes to choseing books, but i just want to read what god would want me to put in my head.
Kelsey (frustrated)
Thank you!
on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 8:22 pm
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Erin...Thank you so much for your amazing encouragment! It is just what I needed. You are completely right too. I will just have to stand strong in what I believe in and lean on the Lord for support. Thank you sooooo much again, you're the best!
p.s I actually love Harry Potter. I have read all of the books and seen the movies. I understand why some Christians think it is wrong to read them and all because of the witchcraft and stuff. However, I know going into it that none of it is true and I have never thought about what it would be like to be a witch. It has not affected my relationship with the Lord or anything else. It is pure entertainment. Do you still think it is wrong to read them??
Gabriella
barely escaped
on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:05 pm
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I have read it, twice. I regret even thinking about reading it! First time: intursting. Second, eyes open wide. I'm glad some one speeking out. I put on shelf for good and yet I felt like being temped to read it. Oh, by the way, last I know about that copy of Twilight, it's at the dump site and now it really Stinks.
P.S. I'm only one at my church that speeks out about this book. Please pray that I will help other girls know the danger.
Abby
Re:
on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 at 4:39 pm
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I wanted to read twilight for along time because my friends were reading it and I LOVE reading I talked to my parents about it and my dad said no I was crushed but of course I was stupide and let bottle up I thought my Dad dident trust me and the more he said no the more I wanted to read it. Over time I've realizeed that he was right I've seen people and friends get sucked in to it. Thank you for speaking the truth! :)
Mel
Twilight Can Consume You
on Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:44 pm
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I am speaking from my age level as a 29 year old who got pulled into reading the first Twilight book and found myself so consumed in it that I read all four books in under a month. I never really thought it to be dangerous or a stumbling block and my older sister even brought the truth out once that it can be a door that opens to other things. Sure Twilight in itself might seem harmless enough but it makes you start thinking about vampires and makes you want to start reading more about them and it can become a fascination that can lead you certainly far away from where God wants us to be. I am speaking from my experience only when I say maybe you think you can walk away from it but once you read it you can't erase the memory or images that the books themselves bring to the front and center of your thinking. My eyes have been opened and I am definitely convicted. I was looking forward to purchasing the dvd this month but after reading the above comments and the full story God has turned my eyes back to Him and my sins were brought into the light. Please I urge you just be careful what you allow into your mind and into your life. At first it could seem fun and even acceptable but Satan uses anything He can to substitute what we should be putting first and that is God. Thank you so much for posting this online so that others might read it and voice their opinions.
Erin Davis
Mel
on Sunday, March 8, 2009 at 11:36 am
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Thanks for being so transparent. I am thrilled to read that you are going to choose to pursue Truth!

Erin
Rachel
well...
on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 at 11:24 pm
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I honestly didn't read the rest of these posts, I just wanted to voice my opinion about the books. I have read all of the books (but didn't see the movie because it did look relevent to the books) and I think that it's okay to read the books but it's when you start to wish there were such things as vampires, or actually belive that there are, then there's a might be a slight problem, and you should probably put the book down for awhile. Also, if Twilight is on your mind more than God, that's also a problem. And I would know becuase that was me when I was reading the books, and I now wish that I hadn't been so obsessed. Talk later!
Chels
i am just all still confused with the twilight thing
on Thursday, March 26, 2009 at 9:48 pm
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Like i said i am just all confused with twilight thing i heard it was against gods word in parts and i dont know i just dont seem to like twilight after the things i have heard
Deborah
Re:
on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 at 9:05 am
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i've only watched the movie-in fact i'm watching it as i'm typing-and i honestly don't see anything wrong with the movie. I'm going to read the books to see if there is something wrong with the books, but unlike many people posting on this blog, i'm actually going to form my own opinion about the book and not take the opinions of others. Fantasy is def my favorite form of fiction, like LORT, and Narnia, so i'm sure i'm going to enjoy the series like many of my friends who have loved the books. But i'm also going to form my opinions with a clear mind, and i would encourage all the girls to do the same. Form your opinions of the book on your own-eyes wide open.
Rosie Posie
Uckk
on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 7:11 pm
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i have to admit that i read harry potter and loved it. however i know that God has all of power in the universe. I in no way believe in it. Now to twilight, i put my foot down. i don't think its right for christians to read about people sucking other people's blood and keeping GIANT secrets from parents. The obsession with Edward and Bella is unhealthy. there is no one that you can have such an obsession over and still love God.
alana
twilight movie
on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 at 6:45 pm
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i promised myslf i wouldnt read the book or watch the movie because truthfully, i stay away from common teen obsessions (twilight, jonas brothers,) and what i had heard of the book sounded truly satanic "oh he thirsted for her blood" and such.

but me and my sister watched the movie, and though we could point out so many flaws in the filming and plot line it wasnt even worth watching, i could see where a person may get hooked. the hole essence of a romance like that is a bit entricing, and who wouldnt like to read of fantasy and magic and suspense like that.
and i was right, it was easy to get hooked. i didnt, but my sister watched it again that night.
i think really, something that is leading astray so many girls and places emphasis on things like violence, teenage romance, sexual tension and is that sketchy for christian standards should plain jis be avoided. it doesnt really matter if you can watch it a couple times without being completely obsessed.
haley
twilight can and will possess you.
on Monday, April 20, 2009 at 2:55 pm
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my sisters abby and eileen are very impressionable and very innocent. i admit that i used to read twilight, i was very enraptured even though i didn't see any difference in my behavior. however, i put the books down for a few months and my sisters started reading them. abby decided that she was going to make twilight her life and i thought my sister was a demon. she went from the sweetest girl you would ever meet to a complete lackadaisical brat and i did not approve. all of my sisters noticed and we gave her an intervention. all twilight material was destroyed and all of us promised not to read them or get involved with that material. recently however, abby and eileen's grades have started dropping again and the same things are happening again but to both of them. last night, abby came up to dad and said the reason she hasn't been sleeping and acting quite right was because she had been reading the books at school. she also said that eileen had been too. my dad confronted eileen and she lied for ten minutes. this child is physically incapable of lying convincingly so that is a shock in itself. then she said with a condescending smile that he hadn't been asking the right questions. she was possessed. then she broke down and said, i don't know what i'm doing. a few weeks ago we had finally gotten her to believe in God and now shes back to the , oh, i just don';t believe in him. i urge all of you to abandon ship when it comes to these books and any sort of topic related material. it is dangerous and affects all age groups who read it. do not be deceived by her painted on smile and the candy coated words in that book and that spew from your friends mouths, they are LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BlondieTheGr8
Re: Silence
on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 8:06 pm
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Hey, I can see your point of view, I guess, but I think that these things are important.
1. You see, my mom grew up around Forks, (the town in Twilight), and some of the Indians at the reservation up there really do believe in the whole vampire/ werewolf thing. It is part of their spiritist religion, which is against God.
2.You're saying that it wasn't written to replace your faith is soo true, but you have to keep in mind, that younger girls who aren't as in tune with God are going to be influenced by what they read! I don't think you ever get too old to be influenced by what you put into your eye-gate.
3. Along with that, you said that it brings a better set of values to young people. We as Christians should base our values in God's Word, and not say "Ohh..let's wait on all that sexual stuff, cause Edward and Bella did." And again, I see your point that it could help some girls, but being a Christain, I dont think that we should be making Bella and Edward our main examples.
4. And finally, as an author myself, I know that when you write fiction, you want your readers so drawn in that it is like they are living your story! That is the point! So, it really isn't so silly for girls to role-play and imagine themselves in the place of the characters. It has been a legitimate struggle in my life in the past, and know others who struggle with it too.
Ok, I'm off my soap box. I really am sorry if this came off as rude, but I think that people need to understand some of these things as well.
With love,
Blondie
Gabriella
Blondie on tha sub of Re: Silence
on Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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There is alot uhv in what your saying.
Lauren
Twilight
on Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm
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All my friends love Twilight. it seems like they are living up to it like Jessica said she was. they keep telling me that "its so romantic, its not bad its just romance. they don't even really talk about vampires." i still think that romance is really not good for your mind anyway. I just wish that Twilight had never even came out because then it wouldn't be so tempting and it wouldn't be surrounding me.
Amelia
Yeah...
on Monday, May 11, 2009 at 9:56 pm
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I have lots of friends that loved the books, and I've never picked one up, or was drawn to do so...the fact that he was a vampire just is gross and so dark. I'm not one for dark books. I honestly think I=as Christians, we should not be so drawn into a book
1) Unsaved people love so much
2) Is dark and just gross
I mean, what example are we to people? They'll think of us as just another Christian that is reading books that really Christians should not be reading.
Anonymous
Re:
on Thursday, June 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
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I haven't seen Twilight,but one of my friends says that in oneof the books the girl gets pregnant and the baby vampire eats through her stomach....I don't think young girls should read books/ watch movies about a girl who falls in love w/ a vampire, gets pregnant and THE BABY EATS THROUGH HER STOMACH!!!

THAT IS SICKENING who would want a baby vampire to eat through your internal organs.

That's proposterous!!!
Salange
Twilight
on Sunday, June 7, 2009 at 11:59 am
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I never really could understand why eveyone was goin so crazy over Twilight. I watched the movie but havent read the book. Is it bad to read those types of books and watch those types of movies.
Nessa
Twilight
on Friday, June 12, 2009 at 6:46 pm
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One of my friends that goes to my school and church is totally obsessed with Twilight. She joined this group at my school who each are a character from it, and insist on being called by their caracter names. My two best friends and I made a pact never to get into that stuff though. The guidence counselor calls it a fad and says it will pass but im not so sure. Oh yeah, I go to a christian school. The friend that I first talked about even threatens to bite people if they get her mad. She and the other people in this group are called "The Vampires". They even paint their finger nails black. There's even a rumor that they cut themselves.
I'm so grateful that I didn't get in to all this stuff.
One more thing, this girl who a lot of people don't like, but my friends and I always invite her to sit with, well she joined the group because of pressure.
Do you think that "The Vampires" are taking things a little to far?
Now that I see what it does to people who get obessed with the wrong things.
I know a lot of good christians have read or seen it and since it's there joice it's fine. It's between them and God. I just want to give a warning about taking things to far.
Lulu
Twilight
on Sunday, June 21, 2009 at 10:27 pm
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First of all I think if I read or saw Twilight that I would probally get obssesed by it. I love fantansy books such as LOTR ect. Some of my friends who read Twilight told me about it. And some of the stuff near the end of the series is so horrible and gross even to think about. My way of testing stuff that I'm sure about would be would I be embaressed to read this out loud to Jesus, or would he read this stuff. I realize everyone has different opinion on this but maybe you should pray and ask God if it really would be produtive in your walk with him.
me
TWILIGHT!!!!!!!
on Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 4:21 pm
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omg i am such a twilighter...i LOVE the books and the movie and everything about them. i read all 4 books in a week and i am well honestly addicted and/or obsessed however you want to put it. they are AWESOME. i dont think there is anything wrong with twilight. they dont even have sex till after they are married. and there is only a teensie bit of language. so i personally think they are ok. i am a christian...and i love twilight.
KK
RE:me
on Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 5:22 pm
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Dear "me",

Just wondering....please,please,please don't take offense, but I have to ask you something. How can you be a christian and not be bothered by this book? It obviously has "in the bed stuff" and we are not supposed to be filling our head with that! We don't need that stuff corroding our mind. I am not saying you are wrong, Im just saying...what kinds of emotions and thoughts is Twilight stirring up in you? I am writing this because I am concerned about you. You are my sis in Christ and I don't want you getting obsessed with a not-so-great-book.
a second year college student
Re:
on Thursday, August 13, 2009 at 6:05 pm
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Well, just because people read twilight that doesn't mean 'you' should too. Yes, just because everything is permissable, doesn't mean eveyone should join in the activity. If your friends jumped off a bridge, do 'you' think its a good idea to jump off too? As they say: just because something is popular in this world, that doesn't mean it's right!! It's filth that shouldn't be in our minds!

I admit, I have read two of the books. Then I put it down because I was so annoyed at Bella... and never picked it up again. I refuse to even see the movies. It's Rubbish!!! and i regret even opening the first page!

p.s. the 'you' doesn't mean anyone in particular.
Lulu
Re:
on Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 12:07 am
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Ok, I just realized this. What I ment to say in my last post was my way of testing stuff I'm Not sure about is: would I be embaressed to read Twilight out loud to Jesus, or would Jesus read books like Twilight. I hope I haven't offended anyone. I know some christians read Twilight and you can argue that it's just for entertainment, but is it really helping your walk with the Lord. Again, I hope I haven't offended anyone.
Your sister in Christ,
Lulu
Bethany
Friends Vs. God
on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 12:25 am
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I agree with the fact that Twilight distracts from your walk with God and that it's not JUST a book. Teens don't realize how much things such as books, music, and media actually affect them. I used to believe the lie, 'benefits of media use, outweigh the harm'. I always thought Twilight was okay because Edward and Bella waited until marriage to have sex. Now, after reading this I've finally come to the conclusion that the harm is greater than I realize.I always remind myself that exact same thing as Sarah said, "God gave His life, Can't we give up a book series??" When it comes to books, there is no such thing as JUST. "It's JUST a book." If you believe it so much then why do you have to argue so strongly. If it's JUST a book. But I love the way she words it! Always ask yourself, whatever you do, 'would I be doing this if Jesus was sitting beside me?' and 'Does this glorify God?' Another thing, if you have a bad feeling about something, it's most likely wrong. And use the Bible to find the answer. You don't have to agree with me on everything, on anything, for that matter. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so no one is judging. People can't tell those who are strongly against something, such as a book, to 'just not read it then', and to 'leave it alone', because if someone has that strong of a feeling about something, God will push them to say something, and to mention it to 'remove a stumbling block.' Also, I've heard arguments like, "You have no right to judge if you haven't even read the book." People don't read the book BECAUSE THEY'RE WARNED AGAINST IT! "However I think it is harmful to read the books and do not want to expose myself to them JUST so I can tell other people not to read them.(words of another teen from this webpage)" If you read it to see if it's really as bad as people say, then you're going against everything you stood for.
I admit I've had some strange things happen after reading Twilight, like Jessica. But until recently, now that I've restarted my walk with God, I've been looking at everything with a magnifying glass. I love the whole idea about the poison, a drop at a time into your body can effect you over time, and also love the quote, "Don't walk by the Harlot's corner." Everyone makes beautiful points!

But I have a problem I need an opinion on, or maybe some advice. Well, her it goes. Me and two of my Best Friends are really into writing, poetry and novels, you name it, and after making this change and accepting God into my heart for the second time, I've been changing the direction, morals of my stories. And so has one of my other BF's. But the other one, we always worry about her...I know it's wrong to judge, but I'm so concerned. I've cried out to God before begging him to make her see how she's changed, not for the better. She doesn't go to church anymore, she swears really bad, doesn't read the Bible ever, never prays, and I finally confronted her the other day and asked her, 'Why don't you ever talk to me and {Ally} about religion?" And basically after we talked I discovered her reason for being so slow coming when it comes to God is that she 'doesn't feel everyone needs to be 'god, God, GOD!' all the time. She doesn't want to be anyone but herself. She's SO stubborn. What a dumb reason. I've been were she is before, but it's just so hard to stand by and see her like this. And to the point, about our writings, me and {Ally} have just recently read 'LYWB' and now we're focusing hard on our religion and eliminating certain books. Well {Kate} is a HUGE Harry Potter fan, and she is OBSESSED with fantasy. It's who she is, anime, fantasy, HP, drawing cartoons, and her stories are all about magic, and powers. I don't know how to deal with it!! I'm trying not to read stuff like that but we read eachother's stories for peer support!!! I don't know what to do. I've been praying and praying and me and my friend {Ally} have even made a Bible Study for all of our friend's to discuss this book, but {Kate} hasn't been able to make it yet. I've just been putting the matter into God's hands, but I feel so helpless.

And I have problems of my own right now too, but I have no one to talk to, no adult I mean. I can't talk to my parents because it's awkward talking to them about religion, even though my Mom is 'Mother Theresea'. I'm thinking about e-mailing a pastor from {Ally's} Church to talk to them, cause I've been trying to go to her church, which offended my Mom. But I need the physical support from an adult. Just someone to tell me they're proud. I don't know, maybe I'm being selfish, or arrogant. I don't conceited maybe. I've been through so much the past month that I have no adult to talk to about. I've been to a 'close friend's only (my other group of friend's, 'christians' who don't think they need to change) and I was the only sober one there. It wasn't even hard, but no one can tell me they're proud. I didn't choose to go there either, I was tricked into going to be a chaperone, cause they knew I wouldn't drink, and I had no way home. I'm done talking now, because I have gotten extremely off topic.

Sry, :\
melissa
Re:Correction
on Friday, October 16, 2009 at 4:36 pm
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Edward doesn't sleep with Bella until after they are married because that is the only thing about him that is still Pure. Not just because he is affraid he can't control himself. I think Stepanie Meyer did a great job in keeping to her faith while writing this book! If someone is going to write an article about a book I feel they should read it. Things get lost in translation.
BLUErox!
Twilight...
on Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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Christian women should not read Twilight.
It's addictive, and it's wrong.
It puts a Bible verse in the first book, Twilight...
That's wrong. A Bible verse, the Bible being the most noble, right, and truthfull book, in a horrible, sick, wrong novel about vampire romance.
Also, there are several other issues...
Edward is a crazy stalker..
He sleeps in her room, and Bella doesn't even let Charlie know.
She tells Charlie she's going over to sleep over with Alice, and ends up with Edward.
Those are just a few of the book's many issues,
I was drawn into that trap, and I barely managed to escape.
Please do yourself a favor, and don't fall in.
It's almost impossible to get out.
Living by faith
Re:Twilight Obsession
on Friday, November 6, 2009 at 10:23 am
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I am a 30 year-old mother of three who became obsessed with the Twilight series. I read all 4 four books in two weeks and I am ashamed to admit that I even used some of my grocery money for family to purchase the last two books. I dream about Edward and wish that I was Bella. I find myself even thinking about it during the day when I am spending time with my children. I have gotten to a point where I recognize that this an attack from the enemy and I need to rebuke those thoughts and purge any more Twilight related items from my home. I have never been the type of person to become obsessed with anything and just by seeing the movie and reading the first book I became instantly hooked. It is like a drug and now I am trying to break the habit, but it is really hard when every ten minutes there is a preview for the upcoming movie or news about it on TV. Even my daughter's Christian preschool has Twilight pictures and posters in their main office. Please pray for me because it is a daily walk to stay strong in my faith.
Paula Hendricks
To Living by faith
on Monday, November 16, 2009 at 3:24 pm
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Thanks for sharing your struggle. Our team is praying for you!
Rosie
Satan
on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 4:05 pm
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I read the first twilight. i thought it was weird. vampires, really? I walked into a book store about a month ago. from wall to wall in the teen section was vampire or socery or books with skeletons on the cover. what has america come to? These books were satanic but the store was advertising them as bestsellers every teen should read. I have to say I am done with that book store!